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    * In principle, everything that has a lid can be a 茶器 and can be theoretically used for 濃茶 or 薄茶　(KM26). For 濃茶, you want something more formal or traditional; 薄茶 can be a bit more playful. Where you draw those lines, however, depends on your sensitivity and having a good reason if deviating from the norm.    * In principle, everything that has a lid can be a 茶器 and can be theoretically used for 濃茶 or 薄茶　(KM26). For 濃茶, you want something more formal or traditional; 薄茶 can be a bit more playful. Where you draw those lines, however, depends on your sensitivity and having a good reason if deviating from the norm.
-   * It terms of handling, there are 3 important categories:+   * It terms of handling, there are 3 important categories. The lid position is the same for 薄茶 and 濃茶.
  
 ^  Category ^ Lid Position  ^ ^  Category ^ Lid Position  ^
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 |      Rest | 6 o'clock     | |      Rest | 6 o'clock     |
  
-   * KM26 and I figured that whether you do どうぶき depends on whether the 茶器 came onto the stage in a 仕覆 or not. The 大津袋 allows you to use an item without 仕覆 for 濃茶, but then it doesn't get purified as much. (The 仕覆 really acts as a "beatifying agent" here.) +   * KM26 and I figured that whether you do {{ruby|胴拭き|どうぶき}} (the turning of the 茶器 to purify its body) depends on whether the 茶器 came onto the stage in a 仕覆 or not. The 大津袋 allows you to use an item without 仕覆 for 濃茶, but then it doesn't get purified as much. (The 仕覆 really acts as a "beatifying agent" here.) The 四方捌, however, is something reserved for 濃茶. 
-   * The purifyication of non-茶入 茶器 repends on the shape of the top part. If it has rounded corners, you clean it in a こ way, it not, then with two straight strokes (ニ).+   * The purifyication of non-茶入 茶器 repends on the shape of the top part. If it has rounded corners, you clean it in a こ way, it not, then with two straight strokes (ニ) (with a few exceptions like the 老松). 
 +   * Cleaning for 拝見, this is my conjecture, has the following rules: If the tea was only scooped for 濃茶, then there's no cleaning of the rim (like in 台天目). For 薄茶, however, the rim is always cleaned (even though you only scoop).
  
 =====茶入===== =====茶入=====
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        * 大海, of course, named so because the tea when seen through the opening looks like the big sea between Japan and China ((http://www.teeweg.de/forum123/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=39)). It's supposedly what {{ruby|栄西|えいさい}} used to bring in tea seeds from China.        * 大海, of course, named so because the tea when seen through the opening looks like the big sea between Japan and China ((http://www.teeweg.de/forum123/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=39)). It's supposedly what {{ruby|栄西|えいさい}} used to bring in tea seeds from China.
        * {{ruby|米市|よねいち}}, named so by 小堀遠州 and thus a 中興名物, because it looks like a bale of rice straw. The golden brocade carries the name of the 茶入.        * {{ruby|米市|よねいち}}, named so by 小堀遠州 and thus a 中興名物, because it looks like a bale of rice straw. The golden brocade carries the name of the 茶入.
-   * **Storage**: {{ ::white_dew.pdf |}} explains that the "proper" 茶入 is wrapped in a 'storage' 仕覆, and then in its wood-turned jar, boxes etc; and that they may have different 'display' 仕覆 for 真, 行 and 草.+   * **Storage**: {{ ::white_dew.pdf |}} explains that the "proper" 茶入 is wrapped in a 'storage' 仕覆, and then in her wood-turned jar ({{ruby|挽家|ひきや?}}, boxes etc; and that they may have different 'display' 仕覆 for 真, 行 and 草. 
 +   * Theoretically, you could use them also for 薄茶, in which case you present them without 仕覆 and 
  
 <WRAP group> <WRAP group>
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 {{ ::aburaya.jpg?200x200 |}} {{ ::aburaya.jpg?200x200 |}}
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 {{ruby|油屋|あぶらや}} {{ruby|油屋|あぶらや}}
 </WRAP> </WRAP>
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 <WRAP third column centeralign> <WRAP third column centeralign>
 {{ ::st_yarinosayakatatukis.jpg?200x200 |}} {{ ::st_yarinosayakatatukis.jpg?200x200 |}}
- {{ruby|槍の鞘|やり　の　さや}},+ 
 + {{ruby|槍の鞘|やり　の　さや}}
 </WRAP> </WRAP>
  
-<WRAP>+<WRAP third column centeralign>
 {{  ::yoneichi.jpg?200x200  |}} {{  ::yoneichi.jpg?200x200  |}}
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 {{ruby|米市|よねいち}} {{ruby|米市|よねいち}}
 </WRAP> </WRAP>
 </WRAP> </WRAP>
  
 +<WRAP group>
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 +<WRAP third column centeralign>
 +{{ ::honnoji.jpg?200x200 |}}
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 +{{ruby|本能寺文琳|ほんのうじ}}, a 大名物 with the あさくら間道
 +</WRAP>
  
  
 +=====薄茶器=====
 +   * In want for a better word (because these containers could also be used for 濃茶), I'm listing all non-茶入 茶器 under [[usuchaki|薄茶器]].
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