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--- kinin [02.06.2024:2202] – [ 貴人清次（きにん　きよつぐ）] aequivinius
+++ kinin [19.06.2026:1157] (current) – [貴人薄茶] aequivinius
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-=====貴人（きにん）=====
+<WRAP info>
+   * For both 濃茶 and 薄茶, the 茶杓 is put out on top of something (帛紗 or 仕覆) for 拝見! (But not if there's a 清次).
+   * Serve sweets on a 高杯 with the top 懐紙 leaf folded //towards R//.
+</WRAP>
-貴人 means nobleman, and here, it refers to 貴人点（きにんだて）. According to Chanoyu Vocabulary:
+===Background===
-> Tea is made in a new tea bowl that is set on an **unlacquered** wooden stand called 貴人台（きにんだい）. Sweets are served on a pedestalled tray called [[takatsuki|高杯（たかつき）]] (with かいし paper folded noticeably), and when the tea is ready, the assistant for the host brings the bowl to the personage. When there are two 貴人 as guests, the assistant serves the first bowl to the first 貴人, then brings a second bowl from the preparation room. After the host makes tea in the second bowl, the assistant brings it to the second 貴人. It is a rule to serve tea in an independent bowl in both the case of 濃茶（こいちゃ）and 薄茶（うすちゃ）.
+> Tea is made in a new tea bowl that is set on an unlacquered wooden stand called 貴人台. Sweets are served on a pedestalled tray called 高杯 (with 懐紙 folded noticeably), and when the tea is ready, the assistant for the host brings the bowl to the personage. When there are two 貴人 as guests, the assistant serves the first bowl to the first 貴人, then brings a second bowl from the preparation room. After the host makes tea in the second bowl, the assistant brings it to the second 貴人. It is a rule to serve tea in an independent bowl in both the case of 濃茶 and 薄茶.
-It is the first of the 小習い, and while it is against the spirit of 利休茶, it is useful to learn //the importance of consideration for the guest// (CQ57).
+It is the first of the 小習, and while it is against the spirit of 侘び茶, it is useful to learn //the importance of consideration for the guest// (CQ57). My interpretation is to learn deference by contrast (貴人 🆚 normal person), and then carry that same deference towards everyone.
-===Most important differences===
    * Theoretically, 茶碗, 台 and all bamboo 道具 are new.
-   *  茶碗 on the 台
+   * The 点前 are directed towards the **outer** corner of the 炉. It always closes 本仕舞い
-   * The 点前 is directed towards the **outer** corner of the black band that lines the 炉, and consequentially, the 柄杓（ひしゃく）is also aligned with the outer corner; as well as the 台 when cleaning 棗. For all the other 小習い (what about かざり?), the inner corner is indicative. I think for しかでん and 七事式（しちじしき） it's the outer.
+   * <del>All bows, if possible, are 真 (says CJ)</del>
-   * All bows, if possible, are 真（しん）(says Christine)
+   * CQ28 says it is usually done in a large room, and 棚, 長板 and 台子 is usually used. With KM25 we also did it without 棚.
-   * We always did all of them with 棚, but I'm not sure it needs to be that way. CQ28 sais it is usually done in a large room, and 棚, 長いた and だいす is usually used.
-   * It always closes 本仕舞い（ほん　じ　まい）
 ===Handling the 茶椀台===
-   * Always touch first with R, then L (but can come quite naturally); and let go in reverse.
+   * Always touch first with R, then L (but can come quite naturally); and let go in reverse ([[::daitenmoku|台天目]] is L, then R).
-   * If there's not enough room to hold from the side, hold at 3 or 9, respectively, and 6; then shift to 3 and 9 **while** lifting up or putting down fluidly.
+   * If there's not enough room to hold from the side, hold at 3 or 9, respectively, and 6; then shift to 3 and 9 **while** lifting or putting down fluidly (this, again, is different from [[::daitenmoku|台天目]]).
-   * Don't hold at the rim (since it might break off), but well within the inside of the plate.
+   * Don't hold the 台 at the rim (since it might break off), but well within the inside of the plate.
    * When walking, hold 茶椀 with four fingers (for 台天目, it's three)
    * Wide grain indicates front side.
-   * When taking 茶椀 from the 台 (or returning it), it is always assisted with a straight hand. (However, it is not assisted when discarding water into 建水.
+   * When taking 茶椀 from the 台 (or returning it), it is always assisted with a straight hand. (However, it is not assisted when discarding water into 建水, or when adding water to it.)
 ===Sweets===
-   * Sweets are served on a special stand, on paper folded slightly. In the picture below, the paper is folded //the wrong way//, signifying sweets for a dead person! (Ulrich IV 19)
+   * Sweets are served on a special stand, on paper folded slightly (top layer goes **towards R**. If you get this wrong, you're serving sweets to a dead person.)
+   * Lift the stand by holding the plate with both hands, then the L goes down to hold the stem (so you conceptually still hold it with both hands at the rim).
+   * They are brought in by the host, not by the assistant.
-{{ ::kininsweets.jpeg?400 |}}
+=====貴人濃茶=====
+<WRAP info>
+   * 茶杓 goes on the 仕覆 for 拝見.
+   * When bringing sweets, bow //twice//: Once to give the sweets to the 貴人, then once at the door.
+</WRAP>
-===Prep===
+   * <del>I think 無事 is a good 御名, since it references「無事是黄人」.</del> (In 2026, I think that's a bit obvious; now I prefer {{ruby|不染|ふぜん}}).
+   * If there are multiple 貴人, they get their sweets individually, and each of them gets their own bowl of 濃茶.
+   * 半東: After the 総礼 with the 柄杓, open door, bow, enter, close the door and sit in the 下座. When the host gets up with the 建水, you get up and bring the 道具 to the 貴人. After that, wait in the waiting 畳 until the host has left with the 水指 or 水次 //and the 貴人 have finished their 拝見//. After bringing the 道具 back, you leave, opening, bowing and closing the door. Then the host opens the door anew (KM26; I'd have left the door open).
-{{ ::kininprep.jpeg?400 |}}
+=====貴人清次濃茶=====
+<WRAP info>
+   * Do 貴人濃茶 as you always would. //After// 「服加減」, you come in with the 共茶碗 and 建水.
+   * 千鳥茶巾 stays in its spot (unlike 薄茶).
+   * The 詰 returns all the 道具 that are entrusted to the 貴人, and the non-貴人 初客 returns the 共茶碗.
+</WRAP>
-===Notes===
+   * Everything is normal: Since you have the 清次, you don't need a はんと. Bow at the door (because it's 貴人), then prepare 濃茶, but only scoop the tea (like in 重茶碗).
-   * Nojiri on 2 VII 21 said that sweets are brought in by host, even when there's two 貴人 (as is more frequently the case these days since women are equal now), or when there's a 貴人 and his servant.
+   * When you serve the tea, you scoot back. The first "normal" guest will get the 茶碗 for the 貴人, who will place it L inside. //Everyone 総礼 here//. Then 台 to the R inside, and 茶碗 into the hands.
+   *  until the 貴人 has taken their first sip. Then (from the back) you inquire about the かげん. When the 貴人 is content, you go on to make the 2<sup>nd</sup> 濃茶. (In 薄茶, here you'd say 「お共の方にもさしあげます」). Scoot forward, then turn towards the 建水 and leave with it. Meanwhile, the guests will ask to 拝見 the 貴人茶碗, and the //last guest// will return it.
+   * Open door, come in with 共茶碗 and 建水.
-=====黄人　薄茶=====
+➡️ This 建水 can either be the same as before, or it can be a different one. As for the 共茶碗, it can be 楽 or something else. Since the 貴人茶碗 is new, it stands above the 一楽二萩三唐津.
-   * Maybe using the black 利休棗 isn't particularly suitable for this 点前.
+   * The 千鳥茶巾 goes to the back of the 釜 lid, and //stays// there (unlike 薄茶, where you might need it still).
-   * 半東 brings everything to host, bowing everytime
+   * Second 茶筅通し is raised only once, and then when finishing it's just サラサラ・コツン・の字.
-   * 茶杓 on 帛紗 during 拝見.
+   * For the 共茶碗, it's お先に amongst the normal folk (just like in 重ね茶碗). No need to include the 貴人, they've had their tea.
+   * When the 貴人茶碗 returns, everyone bows, and you say 「お仕舞い」once (unlike 薄茶, where the normal folk might want to continue to drink tea).
+   * Because the 茶杓 is also used for normal people, no need to put it on the 仕覆 here.
-   * //Christine and I are unsure about sweets: We assume that you open the door with the sweets, bow, carry them to the 貴人, leave, bow, close the door.//
-       *  When shifting back from the 貴人 (after sweets or bringing tea), shift back alot!
+=====貴人薄茶=====
-   * The rest below is from CQ57.
+<WRAP info>
-   * Open door, bow with 茶椀 on 茶椀台 , pick up 茶椀台, then stabilize and walk. Place down, shifting L to 6 of the 茶椀台. Get 棗 from 棚.
+   * If you use the 帛紗 to open the 釜, you take it with L after the 貴人 has drunk their tea.
-   * Go fetch 建水（けんすい）, closing the door.
+   * 茶杓 goes out on the 帛紗 for 拝見 (the 貴人 then separates it, returning them split).
-   * When 柄杓 is put on 蓋置き, 半東（はんとう）opens the door, bows, slides in, turns by 180°, closes the door, pivots again, directed at the 貴人, and places the hands on the floor. (Make sure to keep wrists straight here.)
+</WRAP>
-   * Put 台 at 45°, in line with the **outer** 炉 frame. The rim can protrude over the 畳's black border, leaving lots of space for the 棗.
-   * Continue as usual, placing 茶筅 into 茶椀 (assist with L), then moving the whole 台 towards you. When performing 茶筅とおし, L stabilizes the 茶椀 from the top.
+   * Open door, bow with 茶椀 on 茶椀台, pick up 茶椀台, then stabilise and walk. Place down, shifting L to 6 of the 茶椀台. Get 棗 from 棚; or if not using a 棚, come in with 棗 and 建水 //together//.
-   * Open 水指（みずさし）R then L (it's 炉, so only two hands as always).
+   * When 柄杓 is put on 蓋置, 半東 opens the door, bows, slides in, turns by 180°, closes the door in winter, pivots again, directed at the 貴人, and places the hands on the floor. (Make sure to keep wrists straight here.)
-   * When tea is prepared, pick up 台, then shift so body is aligned with right outside lining of 炉 frame while carrying 台. Then put R at 12, L at 6 (in distinct two steps; **in the air**), turn, and turn again; and put down (shifting L). Shift back, rest hands on 畳（たたみ）.
+   * L stabilises the 茶椀 from the top when doing 茶筅通し.
-   * 半東 stands up, sits down at about 30° from 茶椀 as not to intrude too much into the 貴人's space, turns with 台 in the air, but turns it **on the 畳**. Put's it in front of the guest, slides back, bows, and returns.
+   * When tea is prepared, pick up 台, then shift. Then put R at 12, L at 6 (**in the air**), turn, and turn again; and put down (shifting L). Shift back, rest hands on 畳.
-   * Bow when guest sais //お点前ちょだい//, then hands back on the 畳. When he's taken the first sip, pick up 帛紗（ふくさ）with L if it was used to close 釜ぶた.
+   * 半東 stands up, sits down at about 30° from 茶椀 as not to intrude too much into the 貴人's space, but turns it **on the 畳**. Put's it in front of the guest, slides back, bows, and returns.
+   * Bow when guest says //お点前ちょだい//, then hands back on the 畳. When they've taken the first sip, pick up 帛紗 with L if it was used to close 釜.
    * 半東 stands up, sits in front of 貴人, bows, picks up 茶椀, and returns it.
-   * Clean, and after closing 水指 lid, guest will ask to see the 道具; bow.
-   * After cleaning 棗 for 拝見, take 帛紗 on L, shift towards 棚, pick up 茶杓 and put it on 帛紗, securing it with the thumb. Place down, turn again to face 棚. 半東 places 道具 in front of 貴人, shifts back and bows, then sits in the 畳 beside the ふみこみ畳 so the host can exit.
-   * Guest takes 道具 inside his 畳, separating 茶杓 and 帛紗; only looks at the 道具 when host has taken 建水 and 台, and replenished 水指. The host leaves the door open for these steps, and closes door after replenishing, keeping the 水つぎ in front of him when closing it.
-{{ ::mizutsugi-02-01_om_23.20.58.png?direct&400 |}}
+➡️ Theoretically, after お仕舞い, it would be the good moment for the 半東 to pick up the 干菓子. However, KM26 thinks, this creates a lot of movement in the room, so you could pick them up after delivering the 道具 for 拝見. Then you keep them by your side on the waiting 畳 (KM26, I think I would have brought them outside and then come back in to wait).
+   * Clean, and after closing 水指 lid, guest will ask to see the 道具; bow.
+   * After cleaning 棗 for 拝見, take 帛紗 on L, shift towards 棚, pick up 茶杓 and put it on 帛紗, securing it with the thumb. Place down, turn again to face 棚. 半東 places 道具 in front of 貴人, shifts back and bows, then sits in the 畳 beside the ふみこみ畳 so the host can exit.
+   * Guest takes 道具 inside his 畳, separating 茶杓 and 帛紗; only looks at the 道具 when host has taken 建水 and 台, and replenished 水指. The host leaves the door open for these steps, and closes door in winter after replenishing, keeping the 水次 in front of him when closing it.
    * 半東 returns 道具 (帛紗 and 茶杓 remain separate), the host converses, then takes 帛紗 back, take 棗 and 茶杓 and shifts towards 棚. Put 茶杓 on 水指, 棗 on 棚, then take 茶杓 again (R, L just below node, then R again in the middle).
    * Leave, bow, close door.
-{{gallery>:kinin}}
+====貴人清次 薄茶====
-===== 貴人清次（きにん　きよつぐ）=====
 <WRAP INFO>
 For 薄茶, it's 茶巾-茶巾, 茶筅-茶筅. Also, bow with the 貴人碗 at the door when leaving and entering. Finally, there's 2 times おしまい, once for the 貴人, and once for the servant.
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 This is a 点前 for serving a nobleman and his attendants. The point is to make a distinction between the nobleman and his attendants, so a separate tea bowl, whisk, 茶巾, sweet container, smoking set etc. are used.
-   * This is the only 点前 where we get to use a smoked bamboo 茶筅 called 煤竹（すすだけ）
+   * This is the only 点前 where 裏千家 get to use a smoked bamboo 茶筅 called {{ruby|煤竹|すすだけ}}
-   * It's always performed with 棚
+   * Placement of 茶筅 at the 建水の肩
-   * Placement of 茶筅 like in 和巾
-===Handling the 千鳥板（ちどりいた）===
+There are some cues when what needs to happen:
+   * 2nd guest has taken the 1st sip: 「お茶銘は。。。」
+   * when the 帛紗 is picked up and / or the 茶巾 is being refolded: 「ご準備を。。。」
+   * when サラサラ, 拝見 begins / return the 2nd bowl
+   * for the 2nd bowl: おさきに
+===Handling the 千鳥板===
    * Used only in 炉
-   * Invented by Gengensai, so maybe he's a good one here for 茶杓's maker.
+   * Invented by 玄々斎, so maybe he's a good one here for 茶杓's maker.
-   * If it has a 花押（かおう）, the side the 花押 is on is upside (and closer to the body when carried in the 着物); if it has another design, it's the other way round.
+   * If it has a 花押, the side the 花押 is on is upside (and closer to the body when carried in the 着物); if it has another design, it's the other way round.
-{{gallery>:kininkiyotsugu}}
-===== 貴人濃茶（きにん　こいちゃ）=====
-   * I think 無事（ぶじ）is a good 御名, since it references the 禅語 「無事是黄人」.
-   * If there are multiple guests, they get their sweets individually, and each of them gets their own bowl of 濃茶.
-   * 棚 decorated with 棗, 茶入 in front of it. Could it also be placed on top?
-   * Still unsure as to how the sweets are brought to the guest, and when to bow. For me, it makes most sense if door is opened by 半東, bows, sweets are carried and placed in front of guest (with a lot of distance); then goes back to 茶道口, and bows.
-===== 貴人清次濃茶（きにん　こいちゃ）=====
-   * This one is a lot of fun, because it is quite convoluted but also logical.
-   * We still don't know who brings the sweets
-   * Come in as usual with just 建水, then prepare tea as it happens. Then, I think after 黄人濃茶 is ready, leave with the 建水, empty it and come in again (use a different one this time?) carrying the 清次's 茶碗. Formal bow again (?), then prepare second 濃茶.

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